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QAnon, 4Chan, 8Chan: J.P. Morgan Sank The Titanic?

By Paul Wagner

When the Titanic sank, we didn’t have secret chat-rooms and viral videos. In the 1700s through to the early 20th century, we had super-secret handshakes in members-only social organizations, usually comprised solely of men. These old-time organizations include The Masons, The Skull & Bones Society, The Improved Benevolent and Protective Order of Elks of the World, The Grand Orange Lodge, The Independent Order of Odd Fellows, The Knights of Pythias, The Ancient Order of Foresters, The Ancient Order of United Workmen, The Patriotic Order Sons of America, The Molly Maguires, and many other social groups, some of which are still in existence today. 

These groups were the birthplaces of life-changing agendas, powerful social movements, and presidential campaigns. As fraternities, they thought together, schemed together, and aggressively protected and uplifted each other. These private societies were also safe havens for the proliferation of super-secrets.


“Those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.”

— Friedrich Nietzsche


Today’s most classified sanctuaries are no longer build with brick and mortar, or grown hand-shake to hand-shake.  They’re found within clouds and filled with internet chatrooms. This is where you can find every topic being explored by anonymous avatars and clandestine revolutionaries. The members of these groups of unrelenting, hard-core, critical (if not, judgmental) opinionators appear to come from all walks of life. 

Some of the chats and chatters found in these conspiratorial asylums are brilliant and backed by meticulously vetted research. Others are less analytical and less focused on facts, the raw material of which seems to be under the microscope today. Somehow ideologically based fiction has become the rage. 

QAnon, also known as “The Storm” and “The Great Awakening,” is the super-secret, pro-Trump, fighter-against-all-evils, who seeks to squash the global ring of what they call, “wealthy, satanic pedophiles,” and stop the descendants of the Rothschilds from growing their secret, Satanic cult. 

These power-chatters can be found on 4chan, and it’s unzipped, squirrelly twin, 8chan, otherwise known as Infinitechan or Infinitychan. These communication channels comprise one wild, little golf cart whose purpose seems to be to escort you, against your will, far away from reality.

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This unhinged group of all-cap texters believes that the government is in trouble. They believe that a dangerous cabal, managed by Robert Mueller, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama, is responsible for everything from the “anti-American LGBTQ agenda,” to the 2017 shooting in Las Vegas. 

This fascinating, generally anonymous group believes that Trump and his friends will drain the swamp and combat the “deep state” in all branches of the U.S. government. 

While I love the idea of deconstructing the deep state, I believe 4Channers might garner a little more respect if they introduced the American public to the aliens held at Area 51 and other military black sites. 

Regardless of where they stand on any given topic, 4channers and 8Channers know how to push buttons and fan flames. Their reactions to each other, and some of their most vocal critics are not just combative; they’re volcanic. While these folks seem perfectly at-home in their attempts to set their chatrooms on fire, to me the atmosphere in this realm appears to be just a few cotton candy cones shy of a circus.  

Although passionate and pro-America, they’re not always champions of proven facts, actual events, and general statistics, which tend to be based of silly things like mathematics, science, and well, ya know, reality.  

While the fodder on these channels is confirming and enjoyable to some, the chatters might serve more people if they inched ever-so-slightly toward representing a more realistic version of our three-dimensional reality and a more balanced perspective on how to live with other humans. 

Like a spell-check teaches us how to piece letters together, some “channers” might need a few helpful tools to make them more relatable. For example: a deep-breath button, a consciousness editor, a thought-coach, or an idea-filter. While certainly not foolproof, these things might stimulate more productive dialogues and improved understandings of life as we know it. 


“You’ve reached 4chan. Leave your moral standards at the tone.”

— Anonymous


4Chan’s and 8Chan’s loyal and furtive group of jibber-jabbers are constantly on the hunt for secretly implanted hints from their Commander-in-Chief. These might include the ways he looks at his wife or how he sips a water bottle using his left hand. From the President’s slightest behavior or action, channers assign meanings and make assumptions. While fascinating, this might not be the most productive way to honor and adore our POTUS, as these types of reactions seem subjective and self-serving at best.

Many believe that the pseudonym “Q” on 4Chan is the pen-name of John F. Kennedy Jr., the son of the former president, who, they claim, did not die in a plane crash years ago. Apparently, he lived, left his family, went into hiding, and started blogging, even before the personal computer. 

Some 4Channers and 8Channers believe that their coveted channels have become compromised by anti-American, White House office staff and masked liberals living in the tunnels underneath the Capital. Whether you’re with the former or latter, be sure only to use lemon juice when writing important notes. It works!


“Don’t forget, you’re here forever.”

— A common banner for 4chan


In addition to investigating evils, dangers, and Democrats, these anti-social networks are keenly focused on dismantling the Illuminati, terminating the CIA, and exalting Christian Revivalism. It seems they want every liberal and LGBTQ person to finally pray-away their tendencies of immorality and collusion. 

Most channers seem to believe that vaccines, moon landings, and climate change are hoaxes. And they’re convinced that J. P. Morgan paid Germans or other terrorists to sink the Titanic. Somehow, they believe this saved the Federal Reserve.


“4chan is like — It’s like a look at what the human race really wants to be, deep down inside. It’s how we would treat each other if there were no such thing as restraint or empathy.”

— I Hate Everything


The Top Titanic Conspiracy Theory

This theory surmises that the multi-millionaire financier wanted to kill his rivals, Jacob Astor, Isidor Straus, and Benjamin Guggenheim. His motive was to dismantle the Federal Reserve, an institution that Morgan had long been manipulating, coercing, and controlling, in one way or another. 

Since the three amigos were not pro Federal Reserve, and they never shared their opinions in public, they were probably not at war with Morgan. Given that most millionaires are relatively secretive when it comes to their beliefs and views, it might be imprudent to believe the things they said in public as the gospel-truth. These types of men are driven by profit, not by transparency, intimacy, or promoting the common good. 

Long before his company added him to Titanic’s manifest, which would have been customary, J. Pierpont Morgan was committed to a complex schedule of philanthropic, business, and social events. In his absence, he was not trying to avoid dying on the Titanic. Morgan’s dance card was too full to permit his participation in the maiden voyage. 

It’s interesting to note that the Federal Reserve is insanely complicated and self-serving. While it regularly determines interest rates and the pathways to acquire loans and homes, it would be impossible for it to continuously act on behalf of the American consumer. 

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The Federal Reserve was built upon the premise that only rich men and politicians should benefit from the government and its bank. The average citizen was never a contender for using the government to grow their wealth. This position was always meant for politicians who construct the laws and the wealthy people who fund them. This has never changed. 

Digging deeper, one might determine that “The Fed” was created in haste by a group of greedy and naive colonists, to serve only a handful of wealthy slave-owners, farmers, Governors, Senators, and Congressman.  

Upon its inception and continuing today, The Fed expanded the wealth-base of foreign investors and bankers and may have been created to encumber the United States with an outrageous level of debt. With a strapped, confused, and overburdened government, rich men have more room to play. It makes sense, right?


“The proper funding of the present debt will render it a national blessing. The creation of debt should always be accompanied with the means of extinguishment.”

~ Alexander Hamilton


4Chan and 8Chan are not filled solely with garbage, but there is no idea-filter, tools for vetting or improving your beliefs, or apps that can vet stated “facts.” The channer system needs an upgrade. 

That said, if it wasn’t for 4Chan, how could we understand the lineage between Darpanet, Monsanto, The Skull & Bones Society, and WTC’s Larry Silverstein? Before 4Chan, it was difficult to unearth and explore these types of connections. 

Larry Silverstein was the World Trade Center leaseholder who increased his insurance coverage a few months before the 9-11 terrorist attacks. This statement is true. While the original claim was that Larry purchased anti-terrorism insurance, there is no such inclusion or exclusion for this type of coverage. It’s just insurance, which generally seems to cover terrorist attacks. It’s this type of vetting that would immensely serve the anarchists and critics of the deep state.

According to the 2018 Monmouth Poll, nearly 75% of responders agreed with this sentiment: “a group of unelected government and military officials are secretly manipulating or directing national policy.” While this doesn’t make the “deep state” a truth, it certainly makes it more plausible, no matter which side of the aisle you inhabit. 


“Nothing is random. Everything has meaning.”

— Anonymous, 4Chan


Well, to them, maybe not science or facts. Rock-on Democracy Warriors! But maybe read a book first.

The Author

Paul Wagner is an Intuitive-Empath, clairvoyant reader, and a 5-time EMMY Award-winning writer. He created “THE PERSONALITY CARDS,” a powerful Oracle-Tarot deck that’s helpful in life, love, and relationships. Paul studied with Lakota elders in the Pecos Wilderness, who nurtured his empathic abilities and taught him the sacred rituals. He has lived at ashrams with enlightened masters, including Amma, the Hugging Saint, for whom he’s delivered keynotes at Her worldwide events. Paul tours the world lecturing on spiritual liberation. He lovingly offers intuitive readings and inspirational coaching to help others with self-discovery, decision-making, healing, and forgiveness. Book a session with Paul: HERE.


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